ABSTRACT Professor Mark Johnson has spent his career investigating the philosophy of human embodiment and how it relates to meaning-making. In this article, Rolfers® Andrew Rosenstock and Nikki Olsen interview Johnson about the role of the body in human meaning. Johnson has authored many books about how metaphors are grounded in aspects of our bodily experience. The conversation touches on bodymind duality and the liberation of non-duality – that humans are complex animals to be explained from the bottom up.

ABSTRACT During the COVID-19 shutdown, Rolfer Andrew Rosenstock started a podcast called Touching into Presence. In this part of the transcript, Rosenstock and his cohost, Rolfer Nikki Olsen, discuss the insight they’ve gained from doing the podcast interviews with structural integration specialists and somatic education practitioners.